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Quaequam Blog! » Blog Archive » Zachariah has a George Bush Snr moment #page { background: url("http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-content/themes/default/images/kubrickbgwide.jpg") repeat-y top; border: none; } « Symbols and reality Immoral Earnings » Zachariah has a George Bush Snr moment The Times, 18 February 2006: Taxes aren’t how Tories will save the world’ A CONSERVATIVE government would not introduce a вЂњgreenвЂќ tax, according to the deputy chairman of the partyвЂ™s commission on the environment. Zac Goldsmith, the son of the late Sir James Goldsmith and Editor of Ecologist magazine, who was appointed by David Cameron after he became leader, said that good environmental policy was not about raising taxes or increasing regulations but вЂњshifting emphasisвЂќ. вЂњMost environmentalists would come out with a huge increase in taxes,вЂќ he added. вЂњI donвЂ™t agree. The Conservative Party doesnвЂ™t like forcing people to do anything and I don вЂ™t think we have to вЂ” most of the obstacles are from bad governance.вЂќ The best way to reduce the countryвЂ™s dependence on oil and decrease greenhouse gas emissions was to make people aware of the importance of buying local food and introducing energy-efficiency savings in the home. The Guardian, 31 August 2006: And, as George Osborne will point out in Japan, we will need to make more use of eco taxes. “We should move some of the burden of taxation away from income and capital, and towards taxes on environmentally damaging behaviour. Instead of a tax system that penalises hard work and enterprise, we need to move towards more effective and fair taxes on pollution.” This, of course, is a quote from Boy George, who last month described the Lib Dem proposal for a tax shift as a panic measure written on the back of an envelope. So what’s changed? Why has Zac “Read my lips: no green taxes” Goldsmith and his chums done such a vaulting U-Turn? Could it possibly have something to do with the new Lib Dem policies threatening to strip them of the nice green sheen they have been carefully cultivating for the past few months? Share This Rate this: (No Ratings Yet) Loading ... Tags: conservatives, environment, liberal-democrats, politics, tax-commission Related Posts3 October 2006 -- Emissions from BAA4 June 2006 -- Taxation Okey-Kokey6 May 2007 -- Lies, damned lies, and election results19 April 2007 -- Vote Blue, Go Red18 April 2007 -- Green Substance - should it be banned? This entry was posted on Thursday, August 31st, 2006 at 10:44 am and is filed under musings. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. 14 Responses to “Zachariah has a George Bush Snr moment” Chris Says: August 31st, 2006 at 12:25 pm I hate to ruin a good story, but isn’t it possible to make the current tax burden more green without increasing it? It seems to me that the statements are completely consistent. James Graham Says: August 31st, 2006 at 1:26 pm I hate to ruin a good story, but isnвЂ™t it possible to make the current tax burden more green without increasing it? Yes, and indeed that is Lib Dem policy. But you have to introduce new green taxes in order to remove taxation elsewhere. It seems to me that the statements are completely consistent. Good for you! Neil Craig Says: September 2nd, 2006 at 10:59 am The Tories may have twigged to the fact that, while people are willing to be in favour of having an environment, in roughly the same way that they are in favour of getting into heaven, paying more taxes for it is a bit of a vote loser. James Graham Says: September 4th, 2006 at 11:00 am Except, of course, that they have concluded to do the exact opposite. Neil Craig Says: September 5th, 2006 at 12:09 pm So Zac has said he doesn’t want to have an environment but does want to increase taxes? You must have been reading some other article. James Graham Says: September 5th, 2006 at 12:48 pm I read the article in which Zac Goldsmith argues the case for increased environmental taxes (quote: “We should move some of the burden of taxation away from income and capital, and towards taxes on environmentally damaging behaviour”). I can’t comment on what you’ve been reading in Neil Craig Fantasy Land where anyone who doesn’t want a nuclear power station on every street corner is a signed up member of the Nazi Party. Neil Craig Says: September 8th, 2006 at 10:59 am Well i’ve been reading the posting here which you are allegedly replying to. It says “Zac Goldsmith … said that good environmental policy was not about raising taxes” which seems, at least to me, to hint that he doesn’t want to increase taxes. Neil Craig Says: September 8th, 2006 at 12:17 pm PS Since you are going off topic to attack me may I point out that 60 nuclear power reactors would supply all our present electricity, lets say 90 if we sincerely want to be rich, which, with several reactors on a site, is hardly 1 on each street corner. I also don’t believe you have to be card carrying to be a Nazi. Supporting military agression, including bombing hospitals, for the knowing purpose of carrying out the genocide of Untermensch would do. Calling Jews “war criminals” for doing a small fraction of what you have done & purely in self defence this time, would put the steel helmet on it. James Graham Says: September 8th, 2006 at 7:56 pm “Well iвЂ™ve been reading the posting here which you are allegedly replying to. It says вЂњZac Goldsmith вЂ¦ said that good environmental policy was not about raising taxesвЂќ which seems, at least to me, to hint that he doesnвЂ™t want to increase taxes. ” [slaps forehead] If you’d actually been paying attention you’d have noticed that those comments were made in February and are directly contradicted by his comments this month. Which is the whole point. Sorry to be an English comprehension Nazi… Neil Craig Says: September 9th, 2006 at 12:22 pm But in the second he is merely reporting what Osborne is going to say not what he himself has said. I never suggested that Zac’s thoughts were likely to be particularly coherent, he is after all a green, but he can only fairly be held personally responsible for what he says. James Graham Says: September 11th, 2006 at 10:12 am You really are a piece of work, aren’t you? Osborne’s speech is based on the policy that is being developed by the policy working group that Zac is deputy chair of. Follow that link and then tell me he doesn’t agree with every word. Neil Craig Says: September 11th, 2006 at 11:04 am Deputy chair & absolute controller are not the same thing. The fact that you feel the need to be gratuitously insulting, again, shows you know you are wrong. James Graham Says: September 11th, 2006 at 11:58 am It actually shows I am bored, especially given that the nub of your argument is that black = white, which appears to be the position you keep finding yourself, hence your tendency to keep calling people Nazis. C’est la vie. Neil Craig Says: September 12th, 2006 at 11:04 am & again I have specificly not called any individual a Nazi. You brought up that subject despite its obvious irrelevance to a debate on tax rates. 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